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paul's words echo earlier warnings made by senator chuck grassley. bur don't tell senator chuck grassley that. >> i say that plrly those who are pointing to the terrible tragedy in boston as a, i would say excuse for not doing the bill or delaying it. many months or years. >> i never said that. >> i never said, i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say -- >> i don't mean you, mr. grassley. >> mr. chairman, i don't appreciate -- >> how will the boston bombings affect immigration reform? we'll discuss that, coming up next. >>> before the tragedy last week in boston, congress seemed to be getting its groove back. taking actual votes on actual bills with republicans and democrats coming together to craft actual bipartisan legislation. never mind actual passage. but boston may have stopped that rolling tide, specifically on subject of immigration reform. since the country found out that the two suspect in the bombing were legal immigrants, one of whom became a u.s. citizen in the past year, some opponents have tried to pull the stops on, put the stops on
paul's words echo earlier warnings made by senator chuck grassley. bur don't tell senator chuck grassley that. >> i say that plrly those who are pointing to the terrible tragedy in boston as a, i would say excuse for not doing the bill or delaying it. many months or years. >> i never said that. >> i never said, i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say -- >> i don't mean you, mr. grassley. >> mr. chairman, i don't appreciate -- >> how will the boston...
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chuck grassley about the future of the legislation. take a look. >> a few ways to improve the bill all for an amendment when we start mark-up in may and let's vote on it. i say that particularly those who were pointing to what happened. the terrible tragedy in boston as a -- i would say an excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months oer years. >> i never said that. >> i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say -- >> i didn't say you did. i don't mean you, mr. grassley. >> mr. chairman, i don't appreciate the senator demeaning the witnesses that have come here. >> earlier, senator patrick leahy who chairs the judiciary committee opened the hearing with some tough words for his republican counterparts. >> last week, opponents of comprehensive immigration reform began to exploit the boston marathon bombing. i urge restraint in that regard. refugees and asylum seekers have enriched the fabric of this country from our founding. let no one be so cruel as try to use the heinous acts of these two young men last week to derail the dr
chuck grassley about the future of the legislation. take a look. >> a few ways to improve the bill all for an amendment when we start mark-up in may and let's vote on it. i say that particularly those who were pointing to what happened. the terrible tragedy in boston as a -- i would say an excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months oer years. >> i never said that. >> i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say -- >> i didn't say you did. i don't mean...
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i think that's sort of the impulse behind chuck grassley. it's the impulse behind rand paul, who is one of the renegades who says let's stop immigration reform. but rand paul doesn't have the interest of the republican party at heart. its republicans who want immigration reform for the most part. >> off their back. >> people like rand paul are not interested in the future of the republican party. >> i don't think he has a macro view of the party. some republicans who don't like immigration reform are using the boston marathon bombing as an excuse to stall it. in a letter to harry reid, tea party senator rand paul of kentucky said, quote, the facts emerging in the boston marathon bombing have exposed a weakness in our current system. we should not proceed until we understand the specific failures of our immigration system. joy, i'm not sure what weaknesses, or maybe the visa the russians gave him was probably more of a problem. but back and forth, i would say i still think we ought to know more about what happened. he warned, went over and ca
i think that's sort of the impulse behind chuck grassley. it's the impulse behind rand paul, who is one of the renegades who says let's stop immigration reform. but rand paul doesn't have the interest of the republican party at heart. its republicans who want immigration reform for the most part. >> off their back. >> people like rand paul are not interested in the future of the republican party. >> i don't think he has a macro view of the party. some republicans who don't...
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things got tense on capitol hill when senator chuck schumer sparred with chuck grassley about the future of the legislation. >> a few ways to improve the bill offer an amendment when we start markup in may. let's vote on it. i say that particularly those pointing to what happened, the terrible tragedy in boston as a, i would say, excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said. i didn't say you did sir. >> i never said get i didn't say that. >> i don't know. >> mr. chairman, i don't appreciate your character of the witnesses that have come here. >> behavioral issues, earlier, senator patrick leahy opened the hearing with tough words for his republican counterparts. >> last weeks proponents exploit the boston marathon bombing. i urge restraint in that regard. refugees and asylum seekers have enriched the fabric of our founding. let no one be so cruel as to try to use the heinous acts of these two young bhen to derail the dreams an futures of millions of hard working people. >> well, a number of republican snores, including rand paul, are urging the reform
things got tense on capitol hill when senator chuck schumer sparred with chuck grassley about the future of the legislation. >> a few ways to improve the bill offer an amendment when we start markup in may. let's vote on it. i say that particularly those pointing to what happened, the terrible tragedy in boston as a, i would say, excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said. i didn't say you did sir. >> i never said get i didn't say that....
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today things got hot when chuck schumer independently called out grassley. >> offer an amendment when we start markup in may and let's vote on it. i say that particularly to those who point to what happened, the terrible tragedy in boston as i would say an excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said that. i never said that. >> i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say -- >> i didn't say you did. >> all right. director of the huffington post media group and joy-ann reid. howard first and then joy. we all predicted this, there was going to be an overlay, a bleeding into immigration because it's about foreign people coming here. >> there's no doubt about it. right now the polls show that people in the united states have generally -- although only modestly favorable view of immigration overall, they are in favor of immigration reform and they are for the notion of continuing immigration. but there have been times in our history in recent years when people have been very much against the idea of immigration altogether. >> yeah. >> and what proponents o
today things got hot when chuck schumer independently called out grassley. >> offer an amendment when we start markup in may and let's vote on it. i say that particularly to those who point to what happened, the terrible tragedy in boston as i would say an excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said that. i never said that. >> i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say -- >> i didn't say you did. >> all right. director of...
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republican senator chuck grassley says congress needs to take a step back in the debate. to ensure the nation's security comes first. comments were he echoed by dan co coates on sunday. >> how can we beef up security checks on people who wish to enter the united states? how do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? >> usually end up with bad policy if you do it in an international way or reaction. we saw some things post-9/11 that were enacted if we had more time to think this through, perhaps we wouldn't have had some of the pushback on it. >> senator chuck schumer a member of the gang of eight says immigration overhaul would actually strengthen national security and challenged critics to prove otherwise. >> certainly keeping the status quo was not a very good argument given what happened. there are some, some on the hard right, some otherwise who oppose our immigration bill from the get-go and they're using this as an excuse. we are not going to let them do that. if they ha
republican senator chuck grassley says congress needs to take a step back in the debate. to ensure the nation's security comes first. comments were he echoed by dan co coates on sunday. >> how can we beef up security checks on people who wish to enter the united states? how do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? >> usually end up with bad policy if you do it in an international way...
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chuck grassley was being deeply dishonest. he has enormous resources, one was naturalized and the other was denied because of the fbi concerns about him. this is plain politics. the republican party is stuck now. are we going to play to the base of fear, fearful white people, fearful other people who are really are unsure about the other or are we going to be a forward-looking party that says we cannot write off latino voters for the next 40, 50 years and -- stay a national party and that -- you know, the rubio approach was starting to say let's move forward and we might not win latino votes. even if we do this in the next ten years. but we -- we have to think about our children and grandchildren of republicans and -- that they are -- they are going to want to have a fighting chance with this new american population. there was that forward-looking approach and then there's just -- i'm sorry, that knee-jerk fear is the republican magic -- >> i -- >> it is not fear -- >> bob -- >> fear of national security concern. >> a little b
chuck grassley was being deeply dishonest. he has enormous resources, one was naturalized and the other was denied because of the fbi concerns about him. this is plain politics. the republican party is stuck now. are we going to play to the base of fear, fearful white people, fearful other people who are really are unsure about the other or are we going to be a forward-looking party that says we cannot write off latino voters for the next 40, 50 years and -- stay a national party and that --...
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last week republican senator chuck grassley say bombings prove that congress should not rush the immigration bill. that caused chuck schumer to call him out moments ago. >> those who point to the terrible tragedy in boston as a excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said that. i never said that. >> i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say anything about delaying the bill. >> mr. chairman, i don't appreciate the senator demeaning witnesses that have come here. >> the conversation started because they came to the u.s. from the region of dagestan in 2002. joining me is democratic congressman of arizona, a member of the immigration task force. sir, good to have you here. as you hear what's going on as we speak right now about the immigration reform bill, one of the things that senator patrick leahy says is the boston bombings are being exploited in an effort to defeat the bill. does that ring true or is there real concern that right now there needs to be more intense scrutiny on what immigration reform bill means based on what we know about these two brothe
last week republican senator chuck grassley say bombings prove that congress should not rush the immigration bill. that caused chuck schumer to call him out moments ago. >> those who point to the terrible tragedy in boston as a excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said that. i never said that. >> i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say anything about delaying the bill. >> mr. chairman, i don't appreciate the senator...
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we saw a dust-up today between chuck grassley and chuck schumer. also ted cruz weighing in. suggesting that the only thing that ought to be done in immigration reform now is border security, not path to citizenship. lindsay graham and others trying to push back. is this going to completely b l bollocks up the immigration time table? >> i don't know. i think we're still dealing with the reverb rations of what happened in boston here in washington. this situation only resolved itself friday night. we're still looking for answers so i think we have to wait a little bit. now that said, i think what you're going to see is the debate split and you've laid it out. debate split between people who say let's take a few of the measures that are more popular, that we know can get past. let's do it on a piecemeal basis versus people like lindsay graham and marco rubio and others who say we need to do it all at once, it needs to be comprehensive, not piece by piece. that was the dynamic in truth i think that was going to emerge even pre-boston. i think some folks who wanted to be that pie
we saw a dust-up today between chuck grassley and chuck schumer. also ted cruz weighing in. suggesting that the only thing that ought to be done in immigration reform now is border security, not path to citizenship. lindsay graham and others trying to push back. is this going to completely b l bollocks up the immigration time table? >> i don't know. i think we're still dealing with the reverb rations of what happened in boston here in washington. this situation only resolved itself friday...
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a chuck schumer and a chuck grassley going after each other hurts this chuck. anyway, a divide is emerging in the republican party between those making it known they'll get behind the senate bill and those using boston as an excuse to kill or delay it in chicago. maybe the most important to speak out in favor of this deal, paul ryan, made it clear he is on the immigration reform train. >> we have a broken immigration system and if anything what we see in boston is that we have to fix and modernize our immigration system for lots of reasons, national security reasons, economic security reasons. for all those reasons we need to fix our broken immigration system. >> ryan said he's focused on the immigration proposal that's in the house he called what the senate is doing a very good step if the right direction. and the tone of his speech at the city club of chicago was also striking. >> we are a land of immigrants. i grew up just two hours north of i-90 in southern wisconsin where my family taught me about the melting pot, about how this country is made great by th
a chuck schumer and a chuck grassley going after each other hurts this chuck. anyway, a divide is emerging in the republican party between those making it known they'll get behind the senate bill and those using boston as an excuse to kill or delay it in chicago. maybe the most important to speak out in favor of this deal, paul ryan, made it clear he is on the immigration reform train. >> we have a broken immigration system and if anything what we see in boston is that we have to fix and...
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and so that's why you see folks, chuck grassley and others jumping on the boston marathon and saying maybe we should slow down. even rand paul a week ago being touted at the anti-ted cruz on this issue because he saw the need for reform came out yesterday and said, i may have to rethink this. if they could find a way out of doing this, a lot of republicans would take that and run to the border. >> karen, robert costa thinks that the death knell for immigration reform is time. the longer this drags out, the less chance, the less of a chance it has at being passed. i think that the fact that paul ryan is out there speaking specifically to national security and how immigration reform is tied to national security and the wake of the boston bombings, is almost marching orders for the rest of the gop establishment to say we got to do something on this, we can't be derailed. >> you can tell in their talking points, they know, they've known this for a few weeks now, they have to talk about order at the border and national security implications. because that's going to be the way they're goin
and so that's why you see folks, chuck grassley and others jumping on the boston marathon and saying maybe we should slow down. even rand paul a week ago being touted at the anti-ted cruz on this issue because he saw the need for reform came out yesterday and said, i may have to rethink this. if they could find a way out of doing this, a lot of republicans would take that and run to the border. >> karen, robert costa thinks that the death knell for immigration reform is time. the longer...
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iowa senator chuck grassley yelled at new york senator charles schumer when schumer called on critics to stop using the attacks as a way to your honor against comprehensive immigration, argue against comprehensive immigration reform. >> the terrible tragedy in boston as a, i would say, excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said that. i never said that. >> i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say that. >> and you -- >> mike, we knew about this hearing that was planned before the attacks. we knew this conversation would likely get heated as always on the sunday morning programs. you had lawmakers trying to link the attacks with this comprehensive reform. >> it was inevitable that it would creep in with 7th such a very volatile issue like immigration reform which was already the contention. but also the political level as well. you saw that today. there will be a moment of silence today at 2:50 eastern time in boston in the west wing and here in the united states senate. before then, tempers were really flaring at that hearing, jeff sessions, anoth
iowa senator chuck grassley yelled at new york senator charles schumer when schumer called on critics to stop using the attacks as a way to your honor against comprehensive immigration, argue against comprehensive immigration reform. >> the terrible tragedy in boston as a, i would say, excuse for not doing a bill or delaying it many months or years. >> i never said that. i never said that. >> i didn't say you did, sir. >> i didn't say that. >> and you -- >>...
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. >> chuck grassley from iowa had this to say on immigration reform on friday. >> given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system. while we don't yet know the immigration status of people who terrorized the communities in massachusetts when we find out it will help shed light on the weaknesses of our system. >> actually, senator, maybe the weakness is in trying to tie terrorism to immigration. at the table, msnbc contributor and georgetown university professor, michael dyson and ari melber. >> former south carolina gop chair katon dawson and za here ali. gang of 8 in the midst of all this, gang of 8 puts out the immigration report. marco rubio does a kind of here's the talking points from it. border control, border control is the fundamental thing that we hear coming out of what is meant to be an immigration change, something new. yet, the language is still primarily this language about border control. >> i think it goes back to the republican primary for president. rick perry probably had it right. 1400 miles of bord
. >> chuck grassley from iowa had this to say on immigration reform on friday. >> given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system. while we don't yet know the immigration status of people who terrorized the communities in massachusetts when we find out it will help shed light on the weaknesses of our system. >> actually, senator, maybe the weakness is in trying to tie terrorism to immigration. at the table,...
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grassley, said the terrorist bombing should give senators pause about rushing the debate. >> given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system. how do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws, including this new bill before us? >> on sunday indiana senator dan coats, not known as an aggressive opponent of immigration reform, also said legislation should be pushed back until more about the bombers is known. >> u usually end up with bad policy if you do it in an emotional way or an emotional reaction. and we saw some things post-9/11 that were enacted that if we had had a little more rational time to think this through, perhaps we wouldn't have had some of the pushback on it. >> in the senate there are probably about 10 to 15 republican senators who are opposed to immigration reform no matter what. there are another 15 to 20 gop senators who i would call skittish about how the base views the immigration debate. these are the senators that you'd expect florida's m
grassley, said the terrorist bombing should give senators pause about rushing the debate. >> given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system. how do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws, including this new bill before us? >> on sunday indiana senator dan coats, not known as an aggressive opponent of immigration reform, also said legislation should be...
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senator chuck grassley of iowa among them. today republican congressman and former vice presidential candidate paul ryan and democratic congressman luis gutierrez campaigned in chicago. and said the boston marathon bombings should not slow reform. i would say for the sake of our national security we want to modernize our immigration laws. we do not know how to even track people who oversay their visas. joining me from washington, gabby pacheco and steve cohn, democrat from tennessee. it's great to have you back here, congressman. gabby, i want to begin with you. you gave very moving testimony today before the committee. i guess my first question to you is what was the atmosphere in that room like? what sense did you get of what effect last week's events have had on the conversation, and as an activist who has been working on this before, is there some part of you that is dreading that what you have worked on for so long may possibly be endangered by what happened last week? >> actually, i think a lot of us were holding our bre
senator chuck grassley of iowa among them. today republican congressman and former vice presidential candidate paul ryan and democratic congressman luis gutierrez campaigned in chicago. and said the boston marathon bombings should not slow reform. i would say for the sake of our national security we want to modernize our immigration laws. we do not know how to even track people who oversay their visas. joining me from washington, gabby pacheco and steve cohn, democrat from tennessee. it's great...
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for the second state day, chuck grassley said the bombings show it is flawed. ? if that f this bill were to pass as is, we will count on an airline employee to type in a name into a pirate. if the background collection on the 12 million people who are here illegally are anything like they were in the boston bomber, we're in serious trouble. >> joining me now, michael smerconish, washington correspondent anna palmer, and columnist raul reyes. let me get your initial reaction to some of the pushback. was it predictable for some senators? or is it a valid concern? >> i would say it is both. from these senators, several of them who have raised objections in light of the events in boston. several were not involved to support comprehensive reform any way so the views are a little transparent. they're trying to maneuver for political gainful but it is interesting to me at these hearings. each time they pushed on this notion that we should slow things down because of the boston tragedy. it ended up with the testimony. the answers as secretary napolitano mentioned. it str
for the second state day, chuck grassley said the bombings show it is flawed. ? if that f this bill were to pass as is, we will count on an airline employee to type in a name into a pirate. if the background collection on the 12 million people who are here illegally are anything like they were in the boston bomber, we're in serious trouble. >> joining me now, michael smerconish, washington correspondent anna palmer, and columnist raul reyes. let me get your initial reaction to some of the...
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we were looking at the clip earlier of chuck grassley in that hearing. you know, at that point what really happens is some age puts those questions in front of him and he reads they will. it's kabuki theater. everybody knows what everybody is going to say and i guess a point at some point you want to spend your time doing something else. >> joe and howard, you both know max baucus. in fact, he was here recently. if he knows he is leaving, why would he vote no on background checks? >> i don't think he knew he was leaving. he has $5 million war chest. usually you see senator levin, for example, didn't really raise much money. you could telegraph that he wasn't going to run again. i think that, you know, max baucus had a tough moment when he voted what he thought was going to help him in the general election and the problem is in a primary you have a whole different set of issues. >> i do think that after that vote, things became insurmountable and it it would for any democrat really in a primary. >> the vote would hurt them? >> the vote against background
we were looking at the clip earlier of chuck grassley in that hearing. you know, at that point what really happens is some age puts those questions in front of him and he reads they will. it's kabuki theater. everybody knows what everybody is going to say and i guess a point at some point you want to spend your time doing something else. >> joe and howard, you both know max baucus. in fact, he was here recently. if he knows he is leaving, why would he vote no on background checks?...
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. >> goldie, on immigration reform hearing on capitol hill last week, this is iowa senator chuck grassley questioning the new bill. take a listen. >> how can individuals evade authority and plan such attacks on our soil? how can we beef up security checks on people who wish to enter the united states? how do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? >> goldie taylor, again, that's senator grassley there talking about some steps that could be taken in the wake of what happened to boston, to help things in the future. but at the end of the day, goldie taylor, if someone is hell bent on wreaking havoc in this country, especially a soft target, what more can we do? >> you know, i think that my friend, dave weigel, has the point here. there is nothing in this current legislation, you know, that's been so far agreed to in this deal that would impact this situation. these young men came here as boys. i believe that one was about 15, one was about 8 years old. i'm not sure what you might have found in t
. >> goldie, on immigration reform hearing on capitol hill last week, this is iowa senator chuck grassley questioning the new bill. take a listen. >> how can individuals evade authority and plan such attacks on our soil? how can we beef up security checks on people who wish to enter the united states? how do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? >> goldie taylor, again, that's...
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republican senator chuck grassley says congress needs to take a step back in the debate to secure that the nation's security comes first. his comments were echoed by senator dan coats on sunday. >> how can individuals evade authority and plan such attacks on our soil? how can we beef your security checks on people who wish to enter the united states? how do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before us? >> you usually end up with bad policy if you do it in an emotional ray or an emotional reaction. we saw some things post 9/11 that had we more irrational time to think this through, perhaps maybe we wouldn't have had some of the pushback on it. >> i watched this for several reasons. >> why? >> because i'm a big dennis rodman fan. people go crazy. richard is going up -- not only a senator but he was also an ambassador. he was so red-faced! >> he was purple! >> he was angry. >> he turned a brighter shade of purple than i've ever seen. >> raging. >> no, sir, you were out of order! dan coats never told
republican senator chuck grassley says congress needs to take a step back in the debate to secure that the nation's security comes first. his comments were echoed by senator dan coats on sunday. >> how can individuals evade authority and plan such attacks on our soil? how can we beef your security checks on people who wish to enter the united states? how do we ensure that people who wish to do us harm are not eligible for benefits under the immigration laws including this new bill before...